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. >> is there a point at which you see obama in the polls and you say actually now i believe that we are going to get the tax hikes and the market should fall? there must be a watershed quite soon as we head towards particularly what happens in the house and the senate. >> our focus has been on the senate. we think that's what's going to mostly influence the outcome. i hope there's appetite to see the rates low. i don't see a benefit from raising them. i would call a coin toss on the senate outcome. but wiser minds will see the wisdom of helping the fed in its efforts to stimulate asset prices by not onerously raising taxes on the most important asset class other than homes. >> have you actually calculated a number? you said it would give back some of the rally. but is there a number or a percentage? >> 12-month price target is 1,500. we've written in our research that 1,600 would be a reasonable 2013 end. i need to see an acceleration in global growth. >> contingent on both, not just the tax issue? >> both. somewhere between 1,500 and 1,600. >> david, thank you for being with us. >>
. >> is there a point at which you see obama in the polls and you say actually now i believe that we are going to get the tax hikes and the market should fall? there must be a watershed quite soon as we head towards particularly what happens in the house and the senate. >> our focus has been on the senate. we think that's what's going to mostly influence the outcome. i hope there's appetite to see the rates low. i don't see a benefit from raising them. i would call a coin toss on...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? zagat just gave hertz its top rating in 15 categories, including best overall car rental. so elevate your next car rental experience with the best. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. >>> welcome back. it's not hard to tell when hedge fund manager david einhorn told investors today that he thinks chipotle's stock is short. my next guest couldn't disagree more with the short call. he's damon vickers. good to have you on the program, damon. thanks for joining us. why do you think you're right? >> well, yeah, you named it. look, i think we own chipotle. we also own yum brands. his assertions, one by one, seem kind of an empty bag. they don't really hold much water. >> so let's talk about some of those assertions, damon. einhorn is citing competition from taco bell as part of his reason for recommending the short of chipo
mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? zagat just gave hertz its top rating in 15 categories, including best overall car rental. so elevate your next car rental experience with the best. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. >>> welcome back. it's not hard to tell when hedge fund manager david einhorn told...
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and the market may or may not be pricing in an obama re-election. that's all going to potentially change during the debates. it will either go higher or lower. i think at the end of the day, the election is a short term mover of the marketplace and we would look for that volatility to add positions that we have a lot of conviction in. >> we've got to leave it there. tom, leo, thank you very much for kicking off our show. >> thank you very much. >>> so, what are you, america, doing with your money. how are you changing your investments, your 401(k). right? a lot? a little? not at all? we make our tests hard here on street signs. you can go to streetsigns.cnbc.com. or tweet us your responses or send a very well trained pigeon. >> yes. >>> a market flash not delivered by pigeon but by word of mouth. >> good afternoon, guys. we're watching shares of service now, ticker now. looking at a downgrade from ubs. they took the stock from neutral to sell with a price target of $28. the firm is saying while they aren't questioning the strong fundamentals, they d
and the market may or may not be pricing in an obama re-election. that's all going to potentially change during the debates. it will either go higher or lower. i think at the end of the day, the election is a short term mover of the marketplace and we would look for that volatility to add positions that we have a lot of conviction in. >> we've got to leave it there. tom, leo, thank you very much for kicking off our show. >> thank you very much. >>> so, what are you,...
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my observation on the defense companies feeling the hate from the obama administration on the timing of potential job cuts. wait until you hear the details of what's happening now. >>> up next, what will move your money first thing tomorrow morning? three of wall street's top money pros here tell you what they're watching, on the other side of this break. stay with us. ♪ [ man ] when i'm in my zone... every move i make is a statement... ♪ ...that inspires me to make my mark. ♪ [ male announcer ] the all-new lexus es 350. ♪ >>> all right, welcome back, 30 seconds on the clock, our next guest telling us what they think will move the markets tomorrow morning. we get right to it right now. ubs, steven nicholas, and good to have you on the program, everybody. let's kick it off with you, what are you looking at tomorrow? 30 seconds on the clock. >> well, if you're watching emerging markets, look out for brazil industrial production tomorrow morning at 8:00 a.m. probably mark the 12th straight month of contracting ip, going back to last september. this probably is most importantly f
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bernanke will stay on if barack obama is reelected. on the right-hand side we see potential romney cabinet selections, glenn hubbard, he's been an economic adviser to both romney's presidential campaigns, last time and again this time, and john taylor at stanford university is also somebody who is mentioned frequently. look at state department as well that's obviously one that is a moving part right now because this interesting tension in washington on the obama side if he's reelected between john kerry who might have done himself some good with his speech at the democratic national convention, and susan rice is somebody who is often mentioned. now, this recent flap over libya and what the united states said or did not say about the situation there might have damaged her prospects a little bit. we'll have to watch that one, on the romney side robert zoellick, former world bank president and richard haass, president of the council of foreign relations mention there had and treasury secretary we talked about some of the names for the oba
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they're hearing president obama does not have the answer. they hear from the other side that neither does mitt romney. they're scared. so many of our clients have actually been on the sidelines. this has been a relatively low volume rally. i think it still has legs. i think multiples are reasonable and there's still room to go. >> that's what we have pondered here lately, dick. is this sort of stealth rally, as i called it before -- here we sit near 5 1/2 rear hiyear high the market, even as we worry and wring our hands over those issues. why do you think that is? >> well, i think that investors have been through a difficult decade, especially equity investors in the united states have suffered some real turmoil in their returns, and they've been bombarded by these messages that generate fear. they're legitimate concerns. the world is a very uncertain place. so we're telling -- >> who's buying -- that's the question, who's doing the buying right now? >> i don't think i have a perfect answer for you on that. i can't identify all the buyers ou
they're hearing president obama does not have the answer. they hear from the other side that neither does mitt romney. they're scared. so many of our clients have actually been on the sidelines. this has been a relatively low volume rally. i think it still has legs. i think multiples are reasonable and there's still room to go. >> that's what we have pondered here lately, dick. is this sort of stealth rally, as i called it before -- here we sit near 5 1/2 rear hiyear high the market, even...
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for the sake of a bit of background for the viewers, obviously, it working group created by president obama to try go after wrong doing that led to the financial crisis, you are saying it could be the first of many, say this will set a litmus test or precedent for further cases? >> i would assume enforcement actions along the line. >> frustrating thing about the crisis and the aftermath, the cleanup phase is obvious, things don't get fixed, don't get address ready. in 2006, looking at the databases that contained the loans and securitizations, it was nuts what we were seeing, very high debt-to-income ratios, steep payment resets. these loans were made to default, either investors looked the other way, play is been some of that or not enough due diligence or misrepresentation what was in the trusts, doesn't surprise me these actions are being brought. does surprise any is so long after after. >> i don't think it will hinder jpmorgan chase's abilities to make loans. i'm not sure i would draw this connection. it underscores a broader point we want the institution and lending and enforcement ef
for the sake of a bit of background for the viewers, obviously, it working group created by president obama to try go after wrong doing that led to the financial crisis, you are saying it could be the first of many, say this will set a litmus test or precedent for further cases? >> i would assume enforcement actions along the line. >> frustrating thing about the crisis and the aftermath, the cleanup phase is obvious, things don't get fixed, don't get address ready. in 2006, looking...
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>> it looked like president obama was not prepared. >> the industry e champion did take off today. >> by the way, i like coal. >> as long as he doesn't say anything like this. >> i was in bangkok myself and mark, i didn't see you in the disco. >> well that was the lowest class of all. >> fast money, right now. >> live from the market in new york city's times square. stocks getting a boost today and is this a romney rally? what is the best way to play it. >> i think you have to look at the sector that is most undervalued. i think a romney victory brings back the return of normalized earnings much faster. you will see a regulatory environment that is more in line with what i think the 2012 market should be. we have over regulated in that sense and the value of the us dollar under romney will get stronger. >> karen? >> i agree with what he is saying. there is the perception of economic growth and if that is the case and less regulation, i think you are see the industrials get better. >> i think if we can get back to 2007 and 8: 20 2007 and 2008 levels, it will be better. >> how often do
>> it looked like president obama was not prepared. >> the industry e champion did take off today. >> by the way, i like coal. >> as long as he doesn't say anything like this. >> i was in bangkok myself and mark, i didn't see you in the disco. >> well that was the lowest class of all. >> fast money, right now. >> live from the market in new york city's times square. stocks getting a boost today and is this a romney rally? what is the best way to...
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obama lost with his performance. it brings him back as a credible candidate and he might win all of a sudden, whereas right before the elections everybody sort of wrote him off. so we have to look alt his policy proposals, and obama attacked romney for not having any, but actually on the fiscal side, he's getting pretty specific about favoring a cap on tax loopholes, and i think that's a great idea. i think it would, in fact, generate enough revenues to allow us to lock in on the bush tax cuts permanently. the question is whether the republican diehards who say no tax increase as whatsoever will sign up for that but we could have gridlock even if romney does win. >>> the stock which may be having its best week ever, plus one billion and counting. we'll get a status on facebook's budding friendships and what's in store for the nation's biggest retailers. we'll trade the newest monthly sales figures when halftime comes back. sometimes investing opportunities are hard to spot. you have to dig a little. fidelity's etf ma
obama lost with his performance. it brings him back as a credible candidate and he might win all of a sudden, whereas right before the elections everybody sort of wrote him off. so we have to look alt his policy proposals, and obama attacked romney for not having any, but actually on the fiscal side, he's getting pretty specific about favoring a cap on tax loopholes, and i think that's a great idea. i think it would, in fact, generate enough revenues to allow us to lock in on the bush tax cuts...
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if obama stays in the payout ratios are better for the group. i think you will see this return to in favor once again. >> pop for chesapeake energy. >> dennis was talking about natural gas. chesapeake is benefitting from that. >> drop for mosaic. >> they missed on earnings by about 15 cents. they are saying that demand for product in china is weak right now and they can probably hold off on buying there until the end of the year. >> jim has the ceo of mosaic on mad money. a pop for fly boarding. latest craze in australia. a jet ski hybrid. flyers are connected to a hose which uses water pressure. make sure you bring your wallet. they cost around $12,000 a piece. >> i love it. >> it look as lot smaller when he is on that. >> they take five inches off. drop for starbucks down 1%. >> this is another one not a cheap stock. a lot of future growth expected to come overseas in europe and asia. this is one that under performs the broad markets. i think a lot of people want to see after nike's results. >> drop for jc penney. >> ceo sounds like he is push
if obama stays in the payout ratios are better for the group. i think you will see this return to in favor once again. >> pop for chesapeake energy. >> dennis was talking about natural gas. chesapeake is benefitting from that. >> drop for mosaic. >> they missed on earnings by about 15 cents. they are saying that demand for product in china is weak right now and they can probably hold off on buying there until the end of the year. >> jim has the ceo of mosaic on mad...
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obama doesn't care. i think he is coming out looking very bad, larry. >> i want to get a quick take before we bring the members in here. to me, this guy is a cheap shot artist. he may be representing obama you wants a cheap shot to go after the banks and where are the kudos for jp morgan that did this and put this together at a time when everything was unravel elling. >> the federal government was under pressure for the euro europeons. andrew cuomo preceded snyder man and declined to use the act. this is the same evidence that he looked over and said i'm not going ahead with this and there are cases and -- let me get this straight. he decided the evidence wasn't there. snyder man looked at it and he is playing cheap politics. >> that is your opinion. >> he has become a good governor of new york and said no go. and this guy says no go and we are on the eve of an election and jp morgan did the lord's work. somebody had to stock the hemorrhaging. >> there is fraud here. no question about it. who is responsi
obama doesn't care. i think he is coming out looking very bad, larry. >> i want to get a quick take before we bring the members in here. to me, this guy is a cheap shot artist. he may be representing obama you wants a cheap shot to go after the banks and where are the kudos for jp morgan that did this and put this together at a time when everything was unravel elling. >> the federal government was under pressure for the euro europeons. andrew cuomo preceded snyder man and declined...
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could be good news for president obama. keep those gas prices in the swing states low, mandy. >> absolutely. that's what counts. >>> so, mitt romney celebrating today after what many are calling a big victory in last night's debate. the market has been paying very close attention, as you could imagine, to the race with many already pricing in an obama victory. so what does a romney resurgence mean to your money? joining us now, paul hickey, co-founder of the spoke investment group and on the back of the way the people perceived the debate last night, we're seeing a little bit of reaction in certain sectors for the potential after romney win. but i want to know what you think is going to be a winner. >> i think a romney win, one area that would benefit -- medical device companies. there is hope if romney's elected and repeels the affordable care act, then the device tax will be repealed helping out these companies. that tax will pretty much go right down to their bottom line if it is taken away. so that's a nice 3% to 5% ben
could be good news for president obama. keep those gas prices in the swing states low, mandy. >> absolutely. that's what counts. >>> so, mitt romney celebrating today after what many are calling a big victory in last night's debate. the market has been paying very close attention, as you could imagine, to the race with many already pricing in an obama victory. so what does a romney resurgence mean to your money? joining us now, paul hickey, co-founder of the spoke investment...
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john, what should president obama's objective be? >> he has the same agenda with any football team that has a lead late in the game. don't turn the ball over. he doesn't need to score. he doesn't need to move the ball. he just needs to prevent from the kind of catastrophic mistake that has occurred from time to time in presidential debates. not often. and president obama's not prone to mistakes very often. so he's got a low bar for what he wants to accomplish. we do know that a challenger merely by taking the stage with an incumbent president sell vated in tvais elevated in the eyes of the american people. president obama doesn't have to hurt mitt romney. he has to protect himself. >> hang on to the ball, no fumbles. john, amman, thank you. everyone, stay with cnbc. it is going to be a huge political night. larry kudlow will kick it off as usual with his program at 7:00. debate coverage rolls right out at 8:00, and goes right through with cnbc analysis. we want to hear from you. tweet us your thoughts on the election using the hash t
john, what should president obama's objective be? >> he has the same agenda with any football team that has a lead late in the game. don't turn the ball over. he doesn't need to score. he doesn't need to move the ball. he just needs to prevent from the kind of catastrophic mistake that has occurred from time to time in presidential debates. not often. and president obama's not prone to mistakes very often. so he's got a low bar for what he wants to accomplish. we do know that a challenger...
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and you could see obama's body language. he was petulan it, looking down because he knows he couldn't get it done. that by itself crossing the aisle for common ground. don't have to give up your principles. if you call that moderate fine. i'm telling you it's pragmatic. that's what you've got here, a conservative who's pragmatic. >> democrats thinking those are moderate positions we're closer to a deal than we thought we were. >> that's right. >> now what he dead, and i don't think he actually changed any of his policies. i've been following this campaign painfully so at times minute-by-minute for the last year or so. up don't think he changed substantively. what i think he did was use different language and tone. when he began talking about the role of government he talked about caring for people who are less fortunate. >> not scaring. i got to get out. steve we're going to have you back again. love to have you back. jennifer's going to hang around for awhile for the full show tonight. i want to switch gears. this goes to w
and you could see obama's body language. he was petulan it, looking down because he knows he couldn't get it done. that by itself crossing the aisle for common ground. don't have to give up your principles. if you call that moderate fine. i'm telling you it's pragmatic. that's what you've got here, a conservative who's pragmatic. >> democrats thinking those are moderate positions we're closer to a deal than we thought we were. >> that's right. >> now what he dead, and i don't...
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later obama versus romney. when it comes to the economy who is the better bet? we will give you some answers. how do you know which ones to follow? the equity summary score consolidates the ratings of up to 10 independent research providers into a single score that's weighted based on how accurate they've been in the past. i'm howard spielberg of fidelity investments. the equity summary score is one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. get 200 free trades today and explore your next investing idea. accolade overdrive. zagat just gave hertz its top rating in 15 categories, including best overall car rental. so elevate your next car rental experience with the best. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. >>> time for pops and drops. we kick it off with a drop for lex mark. >> people not buying a printers not a good thing. it didn't help with lex mark. they fall better than 3%. >> fdl a pop. 3%. >> a little more on the earnings. the margin pressure might be ending this quarter. i still think they are seeing a lot
later obama versus romney. when it comes to the economy who is the better bet? we will give you some answers. how do you know which ones to follow? the equity summary score consolidates the ratings of up to 10 independent research providers into a single score that's weighted based on how accurate they've been in the past. i'm howard spielberg of fidelity investments. the equity summary score is one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. get 200 free trades today and...
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so the consensus you view obviously is that obama will win. and if that occurs, the reform as essentially written will go into place. if romney/ryan win, i think all bets are off. >> so if romney wins, you have to change your investment thesis and your ideas for what stocks could work in a romney administration? >> no, not really. you've had me on the program several times and i consistently try to talk about did your only investment themes. and that's one category is innovation, that's important new medicines for grieve vus illnesses. and another theme that will be with us regardless of who the president is and who controls the senate and house is cost of health care. yes, i would submit to you that if romney wins, it's going to have a knee jerk response to a few of those sectors, but what i'm really talking about and what we're focused on is things we think will unfold over the next many years. >> among your top five holdingses you have gilead in there, so that goes toward the technology and development of drugs. how about some of the other
so the consensus you view obviously is that obama will win. and if that occurs, the reform as essentially written will go into place. if romney/ryan win, i think all bets are off. >> so if romney wins, you have to change your investment thesis and your ideas for what stocks could work in a romney administration? >> no, not really. you've had me on the program several times and i consistently try to talk about did your only investment themes. and that's one category is innovation,...
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not so good for barack obama. definitely good for mitt romney. a lot of folks concluding that romney had one of the stronger debate performances last night in presidential debating history, at least in recent memory. that's not good news for the president. you can tell how both these campaigns feel about their performance last night based on what they're doing today. we have not seen mitt romney out in front of television cameras so far today, but president obama hosted a rally in colorado today, giving him a chance to have almost a do over from last night's performance. take a listen. >> when i got on to the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> and bill, the battle continues now. in the battleground states, we're going to see both candidates in virginia. the presi
not so good for barack obama. definitely good for mitt romney. a lot of folks concluding that romney had one of the stronger debate performances last night in presidential debating history, at least in recent memory. that's not good news for the president. you can tell how both these campaigns feel about their performance last night based on what they're doing today. we have not seen mitt romney out in front of television cameras so far today, but president obama hosted a rally in colorado...
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president obama will press him on that. by the same token, p obama says he wants to cut the corporate rate from 35 to 28. he hasn't specified how he's going to pay for that. on jobs, you can expect to hear mitt romney talk about on net since january 2009 when barack obama took office, hardly any jobs created. barack obama will talk about a time line beginning in early 2010. since then, 4 million private sector jobs have been created. finally, medicare, the big issue threatening go bankrupt the budget long term. mitt romney is proposing a substantial change that would include vouchers. he hasn't said how much they'd grow over time. president obama has not said whether or not he's going to propose the same kind of changes like raising the eligibility age for medicare that he tried in those unsuccessful grand bargain talks with house speaker john boehner last year, maria. >> all right, jauohn. thank you so much. my next guest is making the argument that business leaders don't make the best president. what may be good for wall
president obama will press him on that. by the same token, p obama says he wants to cut the corporate rate from 35 to 28. he hasn't specified how he's going to pay for that. on jobs, you can expect to hear mitt romney talk about on net since january 2009 when barack obama took office, hardly any jobs created. barack obama will talk about a time line beginning in early 2010. since then, 4 million private sector jobs have been created. finally, medicare, the big issue threatening go bankrupt the...
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one, he has to convince that president obama has not delivered. second, he has to convince the american people he can deliver. so he has to do it both things. there's still some heavy sledding for him on both fronts. in terms of the market, i think that over the next few weeks and months we're basically going to be driven not only by the political process but whether we get data that confirms the handoff from central bank action to fundamentals will happen. otherwise, this wedge that the central bank have created between valuations of fundamentals cannot be sustained forever. fundamentals have got to start coming up towards valuations, otherwise valuations will come down. >> mohammed, thank you so much for joining us today. >> thank you, michelle. >> all right. we've got about 51 minutes before the closing bell. the nasdaq is lower by nearly 14 points. >> don't go anywhere. there's still a lot more ahead on this busy friday edition of the "closing bell." >>> coming up, employment possibility. 58% of ceos say they plan to hire more workers within t
one, he has to convince that president obama has not delivered. second, he has to convince the american people he can deliver. so he has to do it both things. there's still some heavy sledding for him on both fronts. in terms of the market, i think that over the next few weeks and months we're basically going to be driven not only by the political process but whether we get data that confirms the handoff from central bank action to fundamentals will happen. otherwise, this wedge that the...
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one would make a market forecast based on one's prediction on whether romney comes into president or obama remains in. >> mr. vogel, let's go back here on the expectations of real returns for investors because i think you're talking about something that could be incredibly important. there's been tremendous concern regarding pension funds and their expected rates of returns on a yearly basis of around 8%. some said that's unrealistic. do you believe that's now fair? >> it's ridiculous. it's a numbers game in which the bested interest of the pension managers are to offer high returns and bested interest of the pension funds themselves are not impair the company's earnings by telling the truth. the reality is those numbers, by the way that i gave you before 7% for stocks, 2.5% to 3% for bonds are nominal numbers not real numbers. the real numbers we'll take 2%, 2.5% off of them. as to the 8% pension fund returns, i have a big section in the new book showing what companies would have to do to earn that 8% and the returns are off the chart. you have to have a very high stock market return, ver
one would make a market forecast based on one's prediction on whether romney comes into president or obama remains in. >> mr. vogel, let's go back here on the expectations of real returns for investors because i think you're talking about something that could be incredibly important. there's been tremendous concern regarding pension funds and their expected rates of returns on a yearly basis of around 8%. some said that's unrealistic. do you believe that's now fair? >> it's...
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glad president obama followed through and i think the right thing to do but if anything, i think the criticism that has arisen in the a last few years, there probably were too few strings aand, especially after the bone bown us ins started flowing again this is not to pick on jpmorgan chase. i assure you, looking at a wide variety of firms. this conduct was particularly flagrant. there have been other action brought that laid some groundwork that we took advantage of so we weren't wasting taxpayer money by reinventing the wheel, the fhfa brought a major case and the fhfa inspector general is one of our partners in the working group as well as justice, the s.e.c., hud and others. so, we are co-will be a bore writing bring as many actions as we can as quickly as we can, this just happens to be the first. >> attorney general schneiderman, four years now since the depths of the financial crisis thursday is the first gates gait for the president out of the working group for securities fraud is this the pound of flesh, everyone pushing for accountability forth banks on wall street, we are
glad president obama followed through and i think the right thing to do but if anything, i think the criticism that has arisen in the a last few years, there probably were too few strings aand, especially after the bone bown us ins started flowing again this is not to pick on jpmorgan chase. i assure you, looking at a wide variety of firms. this conduct was particularly flagrant. there have been other action brought that laid some groundwork that we took advantage of so we weren't wasting...
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bush, then barack obama. the fundamental decisions that businesses make particularly domestic businesses are driven really by what's going on with the consumer. and i think the only thing that would worry me is if i really believed that romney and ryan were going to get elected and they were going to come in and dramatically cut government spending, that would lead to a recession, and that would worry me. but i don't think they're going to get elected, but more importantly, i don't think they would do that if they did get elected. nears no republican that ever has. i think ceos are focused on what the consumer is doing, what are their customers doing. and as jim cramer said a little earlier, i think between 23 and 27 minutes of the world's focus was on this last night. the people have moved on to more substantive topics now. >> so the bottom line is that it does not matter for a domestic business who gets elected? when it comes to the fundamental -- >> i think it does matter, but i think it matters because i
bush, then barack obama. the fundamental decisions that businesses make particularly domestic businesses are driven really by what's going on with the consumer. and i think the only thing that would worry me is if i really believed that romney and ryan were going to get elected and they were going to come in and dramatically cut government spending, that would lead to a recession, and that would worry me. but i don't think they're going to get elected, but more importantly, i don't think they...
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that's not right to pay for obama care. and also got point to out that he's in favor of a tax plain that will kill 700,000 jobs. and so he had the chance to answer those questions, or not answer them as the case may be but then i think even more important was the chance to talk about where we're going in the future. what he would do and what i would do and what he described was in my view a reiteratation of the status quo. he'll keep doing what he's done in the past. he'll have a stimulus. hire more government workers. he's is going to pick winners and losers line solyndra. a friend of mine said no he doesn't like picking winners and lowers he just likes picking losers. and so, of course he's in favor of higher taxes. yesterday the vice president blurted out the truth. he said in fact they do want to raise taxes a trillion dollars. i don't want to raise tax on any americans because i want to create good jobs in america. now, i take america in a very different direction. first of all i want to make sure that our policies enc
that's not right to pay for obama care. and also got point to out that he's in favor of a tax plain that will kill 700,000 jobs. and so he had the chance to answer those questions, or not answer them as the case may be but then i think even more important was the chance to talk about where we're going in the future. what he would do and what i would do and what he described was in my view a reiteratation of the status quo. he'll keep doing what he's done in the past. he'll have a stimulus. hire...
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beginning of the year you said you expected president obama to be re-elected. do you still believe that? >> yes. yes. i really do. i think that he was maybe two scores up as i heard on "squawk box" this morning. maybe now it is only one. i still think in terms of looking at these battleground states and where he appears to have a competitive advantage, he's still ahead. >> you were extremely accurate in your overall call, at least as of this date, of how the market was going to perform. you said about 15% in 2012. that's about where we are. is now a good time to invest? and then what's going to happen in 2013. >> i would be much more cautious now. we divided our analysis of the market into two parts. there's the things people normally talk about, growth rates and earnings and the economy, but also the discount rate. the interest rate plus this other fear or uncertainty factor. the fed's actions did reduce the uncertainty factor. they reduced the liquidity that took some of that fear away. but it's not really transferring into growth. if you do the high school l
beginning of the year you said you expected president obama to be re-elected. do you still believe that? >> yes. yes. i really do. i think that he was maybe two scores up as i heard on "squawk box" this morning. maybe now it is only one. i still think in terms of looking at these battleground states and where he appears to have a competitive advantage, he's still ahead. >> you were extremely accurate in your overall call, at least as of this date, of how the market was...
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dodd-frank same thing, obama care similar. there's this cadre of people writing the laws of our country without input from at least half the country. >> what's the most important thing you think needs to be tackled head on. you think the fiscal cliff is the first issue? >> there are a multiple of issues that have to be acted on and obviously the fiscal cliff is a very important one. the trouble is the fiscal cliff is probably too easy to solve and kick down the road, and so therefore i doubt we would be in the fiscal cliff. i'm not sure, to be honest with you, that a fiscal cliff falling off the edge is not exactly what america needs. >> is this a wake-up call do you think at this point? it's a pretty severe wake-up call to get. >> you're describing a wake-up call to rip van winkle. how many years have we been kicking the khan down the road. that's a wake-up call for rip van winkle, somebody who has been sleeping for a multitude of years. >> you're suggesting play with fire a little bit? >> i'm suggesting that i'm interested i
dodd-frank same thing, obama care similar. there's this cadre of people writing the laws of our country without input from at least half the country. >> what's the most important thing you think needs to be tackled head on. you think the fiscal cliff is the first issue? >> there are a multiple of issues that have to be acted on and obviously the fiscal cliff is a very important one. the trouble is the fiscal cliff is probably too easy to solve and kick down the road, and so...
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that's where barack obama wants to focus. he will accuse mitt romney of seeking $4 trillion, $5 trillion in additional tax cuts for the wealthy while raising taxes on the middle class. there will be a lot of talk about that because mitt romney disputes that he would be cutting taxes -- excuse me, raising taxes on the middle class. at the same time, he's challenged. obama's challenge is not to be too cocky. with good reason, he gets cocky sometimes. he's got to be careful that he doesn't is a moment like he had in the new hampshire debate in 2008 where he said hillary is likable enough. he has to avoid that kind of characteristic. mitt romney, on the other hand, what mitt has to do is prove that he's a human being, that he's a tin man who has found a heart, who cares about people other than his social class. and secondly, he has to put barack obama on the defensive. a big challenge there for him because the two are mutually contradictory. >> we're just looking at pictures there of mitt romney sans jacket, so trying to prove th
that's where barack obama wants to focus. he will accuse mitt romney of seeking $4 trillion, $5 trillion in additional tax cuts for the wealthy while raising taxes on the middle class. there will be a lot of talk about that because mitt romney disputes that he would be cutting taxes -- excuse me, raising taxes on the middle class. at the same time, he's challenged. obama's challenge is not to be too cocky. with good reason, he gets cocky sometimes. he's got to be careful that he doesn't is a...
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he has a little bit, $50 billion from seniors and obama care to pay for some of obama care, but the rest of it will have to be covered by cost reduction, which he's fought every step of the way for taxes. >> i wonder, howard, can you -- is it possible to win the argument where you say, all right, i'm rich, i got, you know, i've got an elevator for my cars. i know how to fix this and make it good for the middle class and look like -- maybe you're not as attached to the empathy, or is it better to be the president and say i really care, i just don't know how to do anything. >> neither one of them is good. look, the reason the numbers have gotten so much better for obama in terms of who is the best deal for the economy, whoever thought that would be even at this point. is simply because people think the president cares about them and they don't think that about mitt romney. >> incompetent doesn't help. >> we really have gained 4 million jobs, i grant you from the down -- >> no business experience in his administration, doesn't seem to be private-sector oriented, more interested in governmen
he has a little bit, $50 billion from seniors and obama care to pay for some of obama care, but the rest of it will have to be covered by cost reduction, which he's fought every step of the way for taxes. >> i wonder, howard, can you -- is it possible to win the argument where you say, all right, i'm rich, i got, you know, i've got an elevator for my cars. i know how to fix this and make it good for the middle class and look like -- maybe you're not as attached to the empathy, or is it...
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swing states, they favor the obama. the debate starts wednesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >>> and if president obama is reelected, one of the first job may be to find a replacement for geithner. the wall street journal reports the white house chief of staff jack lew and former clinton chief of staff are two top candidates. both budget experts and could play a major role in the looming fiscal cliff. >>> nokia's into another big customer for its mapping software. the "wall street journal" says the company will unveil a deal with oracle today in san francisco. nokia also recently signed deals with groupon and amazon. nokia a got into the map business with it purchase and has been expanding the service. and back to the banks, shares in banco have been suspended. the bank has announced it will report record write downs of 9.3 billion euro this is year and have suspended its dividend this month. julia has more reaction to what they're saying. they'll launch the share increase by mid november. do you think they can avoid having to
swing states, they favor the obama. the debate starts wednesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >>> and if president obama is reelected, one of the first job may be to find a replacement for geithner. the wall street journal reports the white house chief of staff jack lew and former clinton chief of staff are two top candidates. both budget experts and could play a major role in the looming fiscal cliff. >>> nokia's into another big customer for its mapping software. the "wall...
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democrats were not so thrilled with president obama's performance. the question is going to be has mitt romney been able in a race where he's been clearly behind the president to hurt him enough and sustain that momentum over the next three weeks. that's what's really critical. there have been strong debates, john kerry had a strong debate against george w. bush in 2004. but he wasn't able to translate that into lasting benefit. that's the best of the next three weeks, to see whether romney can keep it going or whether president obama comes out with a higher level of aggression, higher level of energy in the next debate and stop the momentum that romney accumulated last night. >> okay. yeah, i had so many different thoughts, john, as we watched the whole thing. i remember that a lot of republicans were supporting newt gingrich because just for this moment, they wanted -- they thought newt was such a great debater, they wanted to see someone like newt talk to president obama about his policies and about the last four years. and they thought newt would
democrats were not so thrilled with president obama's performance. the question is going to be has mitt romney been able in a race where he's been clearly behind the president to hurt him enough and sustain that momentum over the next three weeks. that's what's really critical. there have been strong debates, john kerry had a strong debate against george w. bush in 2004. but he wasn't able to translate that into lasting benefit. that's the best of the next three weeks, to see whether romney can...
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if obama wins, we're going to go over the fiscal cliff because the republicans and obama aren't going to agree, we'll go out there and roll back the bush tax cuts, we're going to do this, have sequestered stuff or whatever and so that's going to hurt. >> how would he triangulate if he wins and they lose some of the house, say the democrats keep the senate, how would he triangulate to work with the other side? you don't think he'd let them go for another year or two? >> eventually he's going to have to, but he's going to get pushed into it and things are going to happen that are going to scare the heck out of us before we get there. >> what if romney, how does he screw it up? >> if romney wins it will look like, the stock market is going to say this is great, go up for a little while and people are going to say wait a second, this is austerity. it's going to look like the uk, look like europe. >> because we're 25% of gdp, he's not going to let us stay there, right? >> exactly. >> you'd see many more cuts if he's in, is that good long-term? >> much better long-term. you could argue that
if obama wins, we're going to go over the fiscal cliff because the republicans and obama aren't going to agree, we'll go out there and roll back the bush tax cuts, we're going to do this, have sequestered stuff or whatever and so that's going to hurt. >> how would he triangulate if he wins and they lose some of the house, say the democrats keep the senate, how would he triangulate to work with the other side? you don't think he'd let them go for another year or two? >> eventually...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? customer erin swenson bought from us online today. so, i'm happy. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy. i love logistics. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> as we hit new record mortgage rates, i just sat down with the ce
mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? customer erin swenson bought from us online today. so, i'm happy. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm...
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he looks strong on the stage with president obama. he took the fight to obama. obama was a little bit more passive. but ultimately the economy, i believe, carl, is going to be what drives the result. >> if anyone who watched snl over the weekend knows the president wasn't that passive. thanks, john, we'll see you later, john harwood in washington. netflix is up 10%, 30% on the week, the street getting bullish on this name which has really gone on a tear. should you be a buyer? an analyst over as lasar and an analyst at pacific crest securities. guys good to see you both. >> good morning. >> let's start with you, barton. what explains the moves. we got some calls. today morgan stanley and amazon is not as much of a potential threat. why 30% in such a short period of time? >> this is a stock that will be up and down e7% in any given year. that's a statement to the uncertainty in the business model. so little wiggles up or down on expenses or revenue analysis and you can say it's the best stock ever or a wipe out. i'm sitting with a neutral. i don't think the risk
he looks strong on the stage with president obama. he took the fight to obama. obama was a little bit more passive. but ultimately the economy, i believe, carl, is going to be what drives the result. >> if anyone who watched snl over the weekend knows the president wasn't that passive. thanks, john, we'll see you later, john harwood in washington. netflix is up 10%, 30% on the week, the street getting bullish on this name which has really gone on a tear. should you be a buyer? an analyst...
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by the same token, romney can go after obama because obama's talked about reducing the corporate rate to 28%, but he hasn't specified how he'd pay for it. and then you have the issue of jobs. romney talks about the job record on net from the beginning of president obama's term. and if you do that, it's just about even. maybe a few jobs in the positive territory. but barack obama talks about what's happened since early 2010 since the turnaround started. they'll clash on that. on medicare, the big entitlement spending issue that threatens the bunch the long term. mitt romney's proposed with paul ryan an ambitious reformation of the program that would go to voucher, but he hasn't said what the level of the voucher would be or the growth rate in the voucher. if you don't specify that, you can't specify what your savings will be or the impact on consumers. and finally president obama last year in the grand bargain talks with house speaker boehner talked about more ambitious proposals than medicare than he's advocated so far like raising the eligibility age from 65 to 67. hasn't said a word
by the same token, romney can go after obama because obama's talked about reducing the corporate rate to 28%, but he hasn't specified how he'd pay for it. and then you have the issue of jobs. romney talks about the job record on net from the beginning of president obama's term. and if you do that, it's just about even. maybe a few jobs in the positive territory. but barack obama talks about what's happened since early 2010 since the turnaround started. they'll clash on that. on medicare, the...
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didn't have to argue this would be an obama rally. >> i would think so. same people who were trying to push the victory leading to the prices yesterday how do they figure the unemployment numbers here. so what we're really seeing and i wrote about it in my comments this morning, is we're still going by europe is driving the bus. and yesterday was moving up. could you see some romney influences? the coal companies that he mentioned and some of the health care people and you can see some of the obama influences. but that's kind of the backdrop. the reason why the numbers look disproportional says a blot our mrk markets being illiquid. >> what does it mean about merkel going to greece. is that pivotal? >> i'm not sure unless there's a surprise. poor greece is out there festering. everybody is concentrating on spain. greece has not been solved. would be good to solve it. but that doesn't change anything about spain which is a much bigger factor and spain brings in the challenge of italy behind it. so that the game has moved up field a little bit here. so, you
didn't have to argue this would be an obama rally. >> i would think so. same people who were trying to push the victory leading to the prices yesterday how do they figure the unemployment numbers here. so what we're really seeing and i wrote about it in my comments this morning, is we're still going by europe is driving the bus. and yesterday was moving up. could you see some romney influences? the coal companies that he mentioned and some of the health care people and you can see some of...